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Business Shapers: Itay Talgam


Itay Talgam, Conductor and Author
Business Shapers from Mishcon De Reya in association with Jazz FM’s Jazz Shapers

Well I see myself as bringing a kind of a distant mirror from my own perspective as a conductor and placing it in front of business people, educators or politicians or even army man who really want or need to look at themselves in a new way as leaders. But what I do is just help them observe something which they are happy to say find very interesting. So instead of coming in to look this is my experience and seeing as though I am such a successful person you should learn from me which of course you know, wouldn’t work at all. I have my own physical language instead of saying, you know, come on this is irrelevant, we simply look at the gap between our two ways of seeing this reality and then we learn something together and this is actually the only way to learn something together. But really the only way to get the full cooperation of people is to give them ownership to work together towards their own emancipation and of course it has to happen in a way that not only every individual ego will be there but they all in some way harmonise together. My greatest teacher, Leonard saint actually said that if for 2% of the time when he, the great Bernstein is on the podium and if he feels that everyone is in it with him, the audience and the orchestra then he feels very lucky 2% of the time. I certainly believe that in business, just like in music, you have those golden moments and of course if you think it is going to happen all the time you are just going to be frustrated, you know, lose your self-confidence which is not good. That is why I found what Lenny said, you know, about 2% very helpful otherwise I would feel like a complete idiot every time I stood there and it didn’t happen. I feel like very much to be able to move my hand and get a wonderful roar from an orchestra it really is a beautiful moment but I learned how to translate the moment, the amazing moment into the same kind of spiritual beauty.

Itay Talgam featured on Jazz Shapers, a radio programme broadcast on Jazz FM, presented by Mishcon de Reya’s Director of Business Development, Elliot Moss.

On Jazz Shapers, entrepreneurs like Itay Talgam, who have defined and shaped business, are interviewed by Elliot. Alongside music from the risk takers and leaders of jazz, soul, funk and blues, they share the story of their careers and offer advice to anybody thinking of setting up a business.

You can listen to Jazz Shapers live every Saturday at 9am here.

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